Big losses in the stock market: 5 mistakes to avoid – Part 1 (Rich valuations)

Even one big loss in a stock where you hold sizeable position is enough to hurt your wealth, especially if you had entered the stock at rich valuation. This poses the risk of making stock investing a nightmare and can force you to quit midway. One way to avoid big losses in your equity investing is disciplined capital allocation. But that needs years of understanding and application. An easier way is to avoid a few mistakes that typically lead to big losses. 

Big losses in the stock market: 5 mistakes to avoid – Part 1 (Rich valuations)

 Howard Marks explains ‘Risk’ in his book ‘The most important thing’. Real risk in investing is risk of permanent loss of capital. While ups and downs are common in market and stocks, the risk of permanent of loss of capital is what one should avoid. According to him, higher the risk, higher the return is a myth.   

Here’s also a link to his Wharton School lecture on Risk.

Losing capital is part of stock market investing, you might think, since market falls and your own portfolio decline is inevitable. But the key lies in curtailing such falls. Why? Simply because the journey back requires twice as much effort. Take the oft-used example: if a stock falls from Rs.100 to Rs.50, the loss is 50%. But it requires the same stock or a different stock to give 100% return to recover the invested capital in the first place, leave alone the returns. So big losses can lead to significant and permanent loss of capital and needs to be prevented or minimised.

In this four-part series – we are going to take  5 most frequently committed mistakes that lead to permanent loss of capital and how to avoid each one of these. This series is packed with real-stock examples to help you understand these mistakes in the real world of equity. We highly recommend that you bookmark and read them all.

  1. Big losses from rich valuation (in this article)
  2. Losses from cyclical businesses
  3. Losses from low quality businesses
  4. Losses from seeming turnaround stories and no-growth businesses

In this article, we are going to discuss the losses that arise from entering richly valued companies. 

Big losses from rich valuation

Entering a stock that has rallied strongly is a common behaviour observed in most early stage investors.

Most new investors enter markets during a boom and every boom will carry popular themes or sectors. Such sectors tend to hog the market limelight and will also see a whole lot of IPOs being lined up. 

Just to give examples: it was the technology, media, and telecom (TMT) stocks that were booming in 2001 while it was the infrastructure, real estate, and power (capex) in 2008 and the new-age technology companies in 2021. 

Let’s take the last-mentioned theme. In new-age tech companies, the thesis in favour of super rich valuations was that – “the winner takes all” (which means a single company taking a very large share of the market given some form of edge that they might have over others)

Chairman of Motilal Oswal said in a public forum that, “they convinced me that Zomato is the next terrific thing and made me bet big on it”.

MOSL also came up with a Wealth creation study titled “Atoms to Bits” backing the investment argument in new-age tech companies. 

But these big bets (Zomato, Nykaa, PayTM and Policybazaar to name a few) really turned sour for investors post the IPO build up.

In hindsight, these IPOs didn’t look any different from the 2001 technology boom. If the tag line was “eyeballs” then, it was “Gross Merchandise Value (GMV)” this time. The starting point in P&L was a hypothetical metric (instead of revenue/ net sales) called GMV and then an “adjusted profit” at the bottom to make them fit into some kind of growth metric needed for forecasts.  

But post IPOs, companies had to contend with the reality of how to show profitable growth to the stake holders. And in this, they failed. And the result? Investors lost anywhere between 30-70% in these companies as the path to profitability remained unclear. It is now evident that only profitable growth can take these stocks past their previous highs. 

To take some hints from the past, Infosys shares fell 80% in the 1-year post the 2000 tech bubble and took 6 years to surpass its high. At the same time, Wipro surpassed its 2000 high only in 2020. This, even as a lot of other tech stocks completely vanished. Two other popular stocks of the 2000 boom – Saregama and TIPS – broke their 2001 highs after 20 years in 2021 as the new-age tech boom provided an opportunity for them to monetise their IP rights (songs for which they own rights) through Youtube, Spofity, Saavn, etc .

Let’s discuss few recent examples of companies with rich valuation that gave a hard landing to investors.

Sona BLW: Off the auto highway

If there was one auto stock that moved in the opposite direction during the auto sector rally of the last 1 year, it was this recent-IPO stock. At its peak price of Rs.790, post IPO, its market cap hit Rs 48,000 crore and PE at an insane 200 times!  

This was for a company that reported Rs.2,676 crore revenue and Rs.395 crore PAT in FY23. This kind of valuation was unheard of in the auto ancillary sector before this IPO.

While this company’s private equity investor Blackstone, sold its entire stake of 66% through IPO and then open market (pocketing Rs 14,000 crore totally), the more concerning issue is that its promoter holding fell from 67% during listing to 30% now.

Even after the correction, the stock trades at 77 times earnings. With such huge public float and super rich valuation, the company will have to deliver far higher growth than industry to move its stock price. 

Dixon Technologies: Punished for disappointing

Though Dixon was a 2018 IPO stock, it stole the limelight post Covid as the blame game on China, necessity to reduce imports and PLI schemes for electronic manufacturing made it the sole stock to go behind. The stock rallied 8X post Covid during the market rally that peaked out in October 2021 and its valuations hit 180PE.

But after all the hype, the decline it reported in its topline during Q3, FY23, both year-on-year and quarter-on-quarter, took the stock down south. Market is not kind to the stock of a company that is expected to grow at 30-35% and is priced to perfection. The concerns behind such a decline were largely external and not internal (read our take on this in Prime Community) as mobile phone shipments globally fell to a 9-year low in Oct-Dec 2022.

The company won back investors’ confidence post its Q4, FY23 results as it delivered on margins, cash flows and RoCE with NET debt free balance sheet. But the stock is still below its November 2021 peak. So those who had bought it in its peak would still be in losses, a year and half post their investment.

Chemicals: Demanding valuations for “specialty” tag

A hot theme that markets chased, apart from new-age tech companies, was specialty chemicals. As with the latter, there was a rush of IPOs in this space as well. Supply disruptions and inventory stocking by customers gave a sudden leg up to their growth and profitability. As this happened, companies and bankers queued up for IPOs. And the market was also hot enough to absorb them. But a year and a half later, this too turned sour for investors.  Here’s a quick look into the valuation picture of some of those IPOs and their correction from peak.

Even post such a sharp correction, valuations stand rich for most of them as can be seen from their elevated PE ratio or Market cap to sales ratios. 

How to avoid the 'rich valuation' trap?

#1 Get the growth vs valuation match right

Generally, rich valuations are accorded for growth combined with quality of growth (measured in terms of RoCE). Higher the growth rate, higher the PE multiple for a stock.  In other words, people are willing to pay a price for higher growth. Why is this so? It is due to a lack of similar opportunities elsewhere. 

Take any risk-free instrument like government bonds. On an average it takes about 10 years to double your money (at roughly 7%) in such a risk-free instrument. 

But a company that grows its earnings at 25% will multiply your money 8-fold in 10 years (assuming you enter exactly at 25 PE). 

So weighing the option between a 2-fold growth and an 8-fold growth, the market (which is nothing but the collective wisdom of investors) believes that the latter is a lucrative opportunity. Thus more investors start buying the stock, pushing its PE. 

Of course, discerning investors know that the stock is not perfectly priced when everyone goes behind it. For example, they would need to enter at 25 times PE in a stock that is expected to deliver 25% growth to get the same 25% CAGR returns. But as more people buy, the PE goes up. But many investors still enter as they believe they can afford to settle for lower returns, if it is still far better than the 7% risk-free return. 

For example, an institutional investor may be happy with a 4-fold return (which is 15% CAGR) for a stock that is expected to deliver 25% earnings growth, by entering at say 50 PE (PEG of 2 times). What happened here? The investor settles for almost half the original potential simply because he is entering at a far higher PE. Someone else happy with just 3-fold returns in 10 years will pay an even higher PE multiple for the same stock.  

But not every investor understands this. Newbies and not-so-seasoned investors tend to keep the return potential intact, even as PE goes up. And they may not know the point when the excess return over risk-free rate is negative. That is – the stock cannot deliver any more as it has priced in the maximum long-term growth with a high PE. 

And it is not just the risk of return contraction. The risk of growth disappointment is a bigger risk. We discussed how the stock of Dixon Technologies was punished for a disappointing quarter of earnings! As they say, the higher you go, the harder the fall! 😊

Stocks will also take a big hit if the quality of growth deteriorates with increasing debt, higher than expected capital spends and falling RoCE. 

For example, assume a company reporting 25% margin undertakes a major capex. The market assumes the new investment to generate similar margins and in turn RoCE. What if the margin of the company shrinks to 18% or 15%? The future RoCE assumption will go for a toss. This happened in some cases in the chemicals space. This is a greater risk to valuation than even growth disappointment.  

Let us sum it all up with what Warren Buffett saidAn investor of today does not profit from yesterday’s growth. 

That means, you need to do the following:

  • It is extremely important to do a double check on growth as well as quality of growth while betting on high growth companies at rich valuations. There will be little margin for error if things go wrong.
  • You will need to lower your return expectation when you realise you are late for the party. You should also prep yourself for losses, like it happened with Dixon or with the specialty chemical companies.

#2 Keep an eye on competitive landscape and new technologies

Businesses that are categorised as leaders may undergo change. So also the industry structure and competitive landscape. Let’s give some examples of such changes:

  • There was a time pre-1990s when personal care and cosmetic products had 120% import duties which then came down to 50%, 30% and literally NIL now. Coincidentally, the same duty structure now exists in luxury cars. 
  • Unilever once almost threatened Marico with a business takeover. Now, we have homegrown companies in personal care challenging MNCs and winning consumer minds. 
  • Under an MNC parentage, ACC and Ambuja Cements did not see much expansion activity, paving the way for stupendous growth for players like Ultratech and Shree Cement. But with ACC and Ambuja going for aggressive capacity expansion under Adani Group, the increasing competitive intensity may lead to a big check on growth, profitability, and valuations for Ultratech, Shree Cements and others. Things can come a full circle.
  • Dixon and Nykaa did not face the same competitive intensity at the time of their IPO, as they do now. Things can change very quickly! Nykaa will have to face cut-throat competition in its fashion diversification while beauty segment is seeing entry of Tata and Reliance. The electronics manufacturing sector is also seeing the entry of Tata and other large industrial groups.

All such changes will have significant impact on valuations of companies and investors have to be cognizant of it while buying companies at rich valuations. Even if you are not cognisant of such risks, factoring in unforeseen changes in the valuation (essentially applying a discount for high growth companies) will tell you whether any money will be left in the table for you. 

The securities quoted are for illustration purposes only and are not recommendatory.

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5 thoughts on “Big losses in the stock market: 5 mistakes to avoid – Part 1 (Rich valuations)”

  1. Good article Message is clear. But the article sometimes is very mathematical.
    “they would need to enter at 25 times PE in a stock that is expected to deliver 25% growth to get the same 25% CAGR returns. But as more people buy, the PE goes up. But many investors still enter as they believe they can afford to settle for lower returns, if it is still far better than the 7% risk-free return.

    For example, an institutional investor may be happy with a 4-fold return (which is 15% CAGR) for a stock that is expected to deliver 25% earnings growth, by entering at say 50 PE (PEG of 2 times). ”
    Can you please write another article explaining all these with an example in EXCEL?

  2. Brilliant. This 4 part series is full of lessons based on the history of Indian stock market. Great examples and well written. Kudos to you..

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Refunds: There can be no cancellation and refund of subscription fee paid once the subscription is active, other than as stated in Clause 8 of these Terms. If the client is entitled to a refund as specified under Clause 8 of these Terms, the RA will credit that refund to the card or other payment method used by the client to submit payment, unless it has expired - in which case the RA will contact the client to proceed with the refund. If we do issue a refund or credit due to circumstances outside the obligations specified under Clause 8, we are under no obligation to issue the same or a similar refund in the future.

General disclaimers: The recommendations made herein in the Research Services are expression of views and/or opinions and should not be deemed or construed to be advice for the purpose of purchase or sale of any security, nor a solicitation or offering on any investment/ trading opportunity on behalf of the company, AMC, insurance company, or issuer of security referred to herein.

The content and research reports generated by the RA does not constitute or is not intended to constitute an offer to buy or sell, or a solicitation to an offer to buy or sell financial products, units or securities.

The information/ opinion/ views mentioned in research reports or by the RA are not meant to serve as a professional guide to the client or recipients of this Report. The research report, recommendation, or any other content published by the RA do not assure or guarantee any minimum or fixed returns to the client or recipients of the reports/ recommendations/ content.

Use of this information is at the client’s own risk. The client must make his/ her own investment decisions based on his/her specific investment objective and financial position and using such independent advisors as he/she believes necessary. The services rendered by the RA are on a best-effort basis. All information in the content or research report of the RA is provided on an as is basis. Information is believed to be reliable but the RA does not warrant its completeness or accuracy and expressly disclaim all warranties and conditions of any kind, whether express or implied.

While due care has been taken to ensure that the disclosures, information, and opinions given are fair and reasonable, PrimeInvestor Financial Research Pvt Ltd and/or none of its officers, directors, partners, employees, agents, subsidiaries, affiliates or business associates shall be liable for any direct, indirect, special, incidental, consequential, punitive or exemplary damages, including lost profits arising in any way whatsoever from the information/ opinions/ views contained in the research report and recommendations that form part of the Research Service, and/or mails, social media or notifications issued by PrimeInvestor Financial Research Pvt Ltd or any other agency appointed/authorised by PrimeInvestor Financial Research Pvt Ltd. Returns and performance figures mentioned in the research report represent past performance and should not be constituted to be future returns or guaranteed returns.

Any agreements, transactions or other arrangements made between the client and any third party named on (or linked to from) the Website are at your own responsibility and entered into at your own risk. Any information that you receive via the Website, whether or not it is classified as “real time”, may have stopped being current by the time it reaches you. Market price information may be rounded up/down and therefore may not be entirely accurate.

The purpose of these disclosures is to provide essential information about the Research Services in a manner to assist and enable the prospective client/client in making an informed decision for engaging in Research Services before onboarding.

History, present business and background: PrimeInvestor Financial Research Private Limited is registered with SEBI as Research Analyst with registration no. INH200008653. The Research Analyst got its registration on August 19, 2021 and is engaged in offering research and recommendation services.

Disciplinary history: There are no pending material litigations or legal proceedings against the Research Analyst. As on date, no penalties / directions have been issued by SEBI under the SEBI Act or Regulations made thereunder against the Research Analyst relating to Research Analyst services.

Details of the RA's associates: No associates.

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Except where otherwise agreed in writing with the RA, material on the Website is solely for the client’s personal, non-commercial use. Except as provided below, the client must not copy, reproduce, republish, upload, post, transmit or distribute such material in any way, including by e-mail or other electronic means and whether directly or indirectly and the client must not assist any other person to do so.

Without the prior written consent of the RA, modification of the materials, use of the materials on any other web site or networked computer environment or use of the materials for any purpose other than personal, non-commercial use is a violation of the copyrights, trademarks and other proprietary rights, and is prohibited. Any use for which the client receives any remuneration, whether in money or otherwise, is a commercial use for the purposes of these Terms.

The client may occasionally distribute a copy of a research report, or a portion of the same, from the Website in non-electronic form to a few individuals without charge, provided the client includes all copyright and other proprietary rights notices in the same form in which the notices appear, original source attribution, and the phrase “Used with permission from PrimeInvestor Financial Research Pvt. Ltd.”

While the client may occasionally download and store research reports or information from the Website for his/her personal use, he/she may not otherwise provide others with access to the same. The foregoing does not apply to any sharing functionality we provide through the Website that expressly allows the client to share Content or links to Content with others. In addition, the client may not use Content he/she has downloaded for personal use to develop or operate an automated trading system or for data or text mining.

The client agrees not to rearrange or modify the Content available through the Website. The client agrees not to display, post, frame, or scrape the Content for use on another website, app, blog, product or service, except as otherwise expressly permitted by these Terms. You agree not to create any derivative work based on or containing the research products and Content. The framing or scraping of or in-line linking to the Services or any Content contained thereon and/or the use of webcrawler, spidering or other automated means to access, copy, index, process and/or store any Content made available on or through the Services other than as expressly authorized by us is prohibited.

The client further agrees to abide by exclusionary protocols (e.g., Robots.txt, Automated Content Access Protocol (ACAP), etc.) that may be used in connection with the Research Services. The client may not access parts of the Research Services to which he/she is not authorized, or attempt to circumvent any restrictions imposed on your use or access of the Services.

As a general rule, the client may not use the Content, including without limitation, any Content made available through one of our RSS Feeds, in any commercial product or service, without our express written consent.

The client may not create apps, extensions, or other products and services that use our Content without our permission. The client may not aggregate or otherwise use our Content in a manner that could reasonably serve as a substitute for a subscription to the Website.

The client may not access or view the Services with the use of any scripts, extensions, or programs that alter the way the Services are displayed, rendered, or transmitted to you without our written consent.

The client agrees not to use the Services for any unlawful purpose. We reserve the right to terminate or restrict the client's access to the Website if, in our opinion, the client's use of the Services may violate any laws, regulations or rulings, infringe upon another person's rights or violate these Terms.

Prohibited content: The Website includes comments sections, blogs and other interactive features that allow interaction among clients and between clients and the RA. We call the information posted by or contributed by users “Contributed Content.” In the course of availing of the Research Services or uploading any post or comment on the Website, the client shall not post any Contributed Content that (i) contains nude, semi-nude, sexually suggestive photos, (ii) tends or is likely to abuse, harass, threaten, impersonate or intimidate other users of the Website and/or Research Services, (iii) is lascivious or appeals to the prurient interest or if its effect is such as to tend to deprave and corrupt persons who are likely to use or have access to the Website and/or Services, or (iv) otherwise violates, is prohibited or restricted by applicable law, rule or regulation, is offensive or illegal or violates the rights of, harms or threatens the safety of other users of the Website and/or Services (collectively “Prohibited Content”).

We reserve the right to cease to provide the client with the Research Services or access to the Website, or terminate your subscription, with immediate effect and without notice and liability, for violating these Terms, applicable law, rules or regulations and reserves the right to remove Prohibited Content which is in violation of these Terms, or is otherwise abusive, illegal or disruptive. The determination of whether any content constitutes Prohibited Content, violates these Terms, or is otherwise abusive illegal or disruptive, is subject to the sole determination of the Firm.

Changes to Research Services: We are constantly endeavouring to improve the quality of Research Services provided to our clients. Due to this, the form and nature of the Research Services provided may change from time to time without any prior notice to the client. We reserve the right to introduce and initiate new features, functionalities, components to the Website and/or Research Services and/or change, alter, modify, or discontinue existing ones without any prior notice to the client.

Warranty and liability disclaimer: The Website, Research Services, and all the materials and services, included on or otherwise made available to the client through this Website is provided by the RA on an “as is” and “as available” basis without any representation or warranties, express or implied except otherwise specified in writing. Without prejudice to the foregoing paragraph, the RA does not warrant that:

  • This Website and/or Research Services will be constantly available, or available at all;
  • The information on this Website or provided through the Research Services is complete, true, accurate or not misleading; or
  • The quality of any products, services, information, or other material that you obtain through the Website or Services will meet your expectations.

The RA, to the fullest extent permitted by law, disclaims all warranties, whether express or implied, including the warranty of merchantability, fitness for particular purpose and non-infringement. The RA makes no warranties about the accuracy, reliability, completeness, or timeliness of the Website, Research Services, Content, Contributed Content, Services, software, text, graphics and links.

The RA does not warrant that this Website, Research Services, information, content, materials, or any other material included on or otherwise made available to you through this Website, their servers, or electronic communication sent by the RA are free of viruses or other harmful components.

Nothing on this Website constitutes, or is meant to constitute, advice of any kind.

Indemnification: The client:

  1. Represents, warrants and covenants that no materials of any kind provided by him/her will:
    1. Violate, plagiarise, or infringe upon the rights of any third party, including copyright, trademark, privacy or other personal or proprietary rights; or
    2. Contain libellous, Prohibited Content or other unlawful material;
  2. Hereby agree to indemnify, defend and hold harmless the RA and all of the RA’s officers, directors, owners, agents, customers/clients, information providers, affiliates, licensors and licensees (collectively, the “Indemnified Parties”) from and against any and all liability and costs, including, without limitation, reasonable advocate’s fees, incurred by the Indemnified Parties in connection with any claim arising out of any breach by the client of these Terms or the foregoing representations, warranties and covenants. The client shall cooperate as fully as reasonably required in the defence of any such claim. The RA reserves the right, at its own expense, to assume the exclusive defence and control of any matter subject to indemnification by the client.

Applicable law: This Website, including the Content and Contributed Content and information contained herein, and the provision of Research Services shall be governed by the Securities and Exchange Board of India, laws of the Republic of India and the courts of Chennai, India which shall retain exclusive jurisdiction to entertain any proceedings in relation to any disputes arising out of the same. As such, the laws of India shall govern any transaction completed using this Website.

Information gathered and tracked: Information submitted or collected on the Website or pursuant to the use of the Services is stored in a database. Specifically, we store the username, name, e-mail address, contact number, as submitted or collected on our Website or through the provision of the Research Services. We may use such information to send out occasional promotional materials, including alerts on new Services available, or other promotional and marketing material relating to our clients and customers.

In accordance with the Information Technology Act 2000, the name and the details of the Grievance Officer at PrimeInvestor is provided below:

Mr. Srikanth Meenakshi
PrimeInvestor Financial Research Pvt. Ltd., Registered office: 659, 4th Avenue, D-Sector, Anna Nagar Western Extension, Chennai 600 101.
Email: [email protected]

11. Mandatory notice:

Clients shall be requested to go through Do’s and Don’ts while dealing with RA as specified in SEBI master circular no. SEBI/HO/MIRSD-POD-1/P/CIR/2024/49 dated May 21, 2024 or as may be specified by SEBI from time to time.

12. Optional Centralised Fee Collection Mechanism:

SEBI has operationalized a centralized fee collection mechanism for IA and RA. Under this mechanism, clients shall pay fees to IAs/RAs through a designated platform/portal administered by a recognized Administration and Supervision body. This is an optional mechanism for the registered entities. At this time, PrimeInvestor has opted out of this fee collection mechanism. Therefore, all subscription payments for the Research Services will be through the modes as specified in Clause 5 of these Terms.

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